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Guide to making masks?


I've decided to try to make a mask on my own
but I have no idea where to start, what tools
I need etc.
Does any of you guys have a guide or similar of making masks?
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Well someone should do a stp by step. There is a Face Mould Step by Stap on Classic Mask but no one as far as I know has done this with their, ehem.. trade secret technique.

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i may be able to enlighten you on some simple processes to making yourself a mask without giving any secrets.. these secrets are just part of the learning process.. it's like cooking.. you learn when to add a little or take a little out. First off PATIENCE. in my expierience i've made about 5 masks. none of which im happy with. I've finally got my mold work good.. and layup process where i'm ok with my work.
i've got two shells made and not finished both custom.. the whole process.
1. A pelle
2. a bannerman..
Now that said.
you must make your head mold.
build up the clay to the shape of the mask you would like (probably the hardest part in all this) .. i could never get that shape just right for a liut (still can't)

Very important is materials...
select your preference of cloth size
some 6oz. or all 6oz. or 10oz. or matt or whatever works for you.. this is one of those areas where you will learn what's best for you.

Resin.. is the same way. Vinylester, Polyester, ext..... do research (KEY) and there is alot of available info. on this board itself.

Lay it up. (tricky) it's not like the cloth just forms to the mold. This is where you will learn by trial and error.. This is the area where "secrets" probably.. are developed.. Just trial and error

Map holes. USE PENCIL
cut holes, triangles. DREMEL is KEY
LOTS OF SANDING AND FILING ..

IT really is alot of work.. and to maskmakers even greatly shows the appreciation to the makers and to these works of art . ALOT of hard and messy work.
It's not rocket science, however, it's not a tea party either... hope this helps a tad.
any questions feel free to get ahold of me
hope i didn't step on any toes.. just my expierience.. thanks
greg (not harrison) M{*
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I have a question pertaining to the laying up phase. I have yet to lay up any masks yet, and was curious as to the time I should allot between layers for the fiberglass to set. I know it will vary depending on what type of epoxy resin I use and the size sheet. Do I let let the glass completely set between layers, or do i just let it "green"? This is really the only step of construction that I am hazy about.

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There is no time between layers. Do the first, wet it with your brush (and the resin) then the second, 3rd, 4th etc until your done all 10 or 11. Then try to squeegee as much resin out as possible (that's the important part). TIP - Don't over wet the layers to begin with just enough to saturate... The hard part is working the fiberglass and keeping it down. Some guys say use solid sheets some do the overlap thing. I have strong masks made both ways. Some say don't use mat others swear buy a bit and others again make their entire mask out of it. I have seen great masks made by all techniques. I really do not think it matters what material you use but only that you have a good set of hands. To me that is the most important thing. Some guys I know do half the mask then squeegee all the access resin out and let harden then they do the other half another day. Others do the entire mask then squeegee as much out as possible. You have to decide your best technique. It will take a few to get your own thing down.
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It is best to try and do all layers at once, but if it seems too thin afterwards you can add more layers. This is important though: if you do put on more layers, you MUST file or sand the surface first. The bond between old layers and new layers will not be strong enough if the new layers don't have a rough surface to grab hold of. I allmost always need to thicken up my masks in certain areas and have found out that new layers on a smooth surface just doesn't bond well.
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Thanks for the quick responses guys! Keep the tips coming. I have 7.5oz weave on the way, and will be picking up my mold supplies tomorrow. emoticon emoticon
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If you are doing a Higgins finish it with a larger flooded weave. If you are doing a Harrison a little smaller/tighter weave. You can do this on the last piece. Tony and I used a little mat in the center like a sandwhich and my Higgins turned out great. We also finished that Harrison that I put photos of showing the smaller weave finish. I am sure Higgins and others likely used some mat for some things? and tooling cloth. I am no Xpert but I have had the luxury of watching Tony and JP and listening to Gary..
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