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I would recomend making a reverse cast from the plaster mold of your face. It takes the guese work out of the clay thickness for your padding. For instance, if you want to use 1/4" thick padding you will need to use a 1/4" of clay (you don't have to figure out how thick the plaster mold was also).
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When your scultping the mask with clay, use the non hardening type. That way the mold won't crack. You can use PVA to coat your plug. Its a liquid and it can be brushed on as opposed to a wax where you would have to buff the plug to make it shiny. With PVA you would have to apply about 2 to 3 coats. I use it as my releseing agentit it works great. Some suggest a combination of wax and pva but if your plug is made with clay the PVA will do the job.

Just take your time with it and have fun. It a great hobby and pass time.

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Sorry for the additional reply. Neums is correct with the amount of fiberglass you need. I would pick up about 3 yards of cloth and about a yard of the Matt. That should be plenty. Also try to use either vinyalester or epoxy resin. Epoxy resin is more low odour so depending where you are working the smell will be minimal.
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Sorry for the additional reply. Neums is correct with the amount of fiberglass you need. I would pick up about 3 yards of cloth and about a yard of the Matt. That should be plenty. Also try to use either vinyalester or epoxy resin. Epoxy resin is more low odour so depending where you are working the smell will be minimal.



It is my understanding that strand matt glass does not work well with Epoxy Resins.
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Masksbyoldbear, thats right!

My apologies you brought up a great point my mistake. If you are going to use matt you cannot use the Epoxy resins. You can only use the Polyester or vinylester resins.

I've never used matt before but was told the same thing about epoxy resins and matt not being compatable.

About the Polyester and Vinylester resins they tend to smell, so do you layup in a well ventelated area.
 


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sorry please explain "matt". please forgive i'm an extreme noob with this stuff. Is it a form of kevlar or aramid?
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Matt is the multi directional glass, as opposed to the two directional cloth glass.
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Once again guys, I'm only in the planning stages currently, but thank you all for the various emails/thread responses with information, AND your patience with dealing with me and my questions.

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Masksbyoldbear, thats right!

My apologies you brought up a great point my mistake. If you are going to use matt you cannot use the Epoxy resins. You can only use the Polyester or vinylester resins.

I've never used matt before but was told the same thing about epoxy resins and matt not being compatable.

About the Polyester and Vinylester resins they tend to smell, so do you layup in a well ventelated area.
 





WHAT? I have always understood (and experienced) that it's POLYESTER resin that won't work with matt (something in the resin itself causes the matt to disintegrate into hairs - the stuff that "bonds" the threads together with matt cloth loses it's hold the second it touches poly resin. It becomes a total mess).

I've used matt before with epoxy resin and there was no problem. Using it with poly resin was a disaster

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No I've heard that Polyester works with Matt and epoxy doesn't. BUT honestly I've never used matt in any or my masks so I can't really comment. Dave Neuman would know for sure because he uses Matt often.

I've just completed wet sanding my latest combo and will be painting it white only in early January. I was looking at artwork but looked at my mask and honestly its going to look great just white.


Gretsave your welcome on the advice. I hope you are not getting overwhelemed with all the good advice on the board. Just remember take your time, if you have any questions post them on line and someone will reply and most importantly have fun. I remember that before I started my first combo that I spent a couple of months doing my research, asking some questions and learning a lot. This web site is great for all of that and there are a lot of great people on this board that know there stuff!!
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