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This is a pair of BROWN's I picked up off of Ebay a couple weeks ago. I've been looking for this exact model for almost three years now.

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I wore this model during my last year of college and first three years of pro, so I really wanted to find another set to wear in my alumni games. This set measures 34 3/4" and are not even broken in yet. The leather is in great condition with absolutely no repairs. Its a yellowish tan leather that BROWN used in the early 80's. The old owner must have had really skinny legs because all the straps were cut down to the point that they were not usable for me. The labels on the sides were worn which was a common problem on those early 80's BROWN's. The company even sent patches with better printed logos to some of the pros to cover the worn labels. The old owner also removed the side pads. Here is what the pads look like now after I've been working on them for a week:

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Sarah at PAW had eight new brown leather straps left, so I used them all. Some of the cut down lower straps were long enough to repurpose as upper straps. I replaced the worn small printed labels with some nice embroidered ones and a local screen printer made me some large patches to cover the the big worn logos. My friend Mike Dorr, made the side pads for me. I wanted them to be all nylon instead of leather because it wears better, is lighter, and that's what I had on my old pair back in the day. The padding inside the side pads is from an old BROWN set I have been saving. The pads should go well with my JB20 catch glove and JB11 bocker, both of which I recently refurbished.

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So Neums you pulled the trigger on those.
I was wondering who bought them.

They looked like they were in good condition,but I didnt want to put the extra money into getting calf guards and the text fixed,its why I stayed away from them.I still think the original asking price of 350 was too high.If you going to use them alot spending around 500 total to fix them up is probally well worth it,but I dont wear my vintage gear that often so its not worth it for me.Its good to hear they found a good home.

nice resto job on them.They look great.Just wondering why you went with white color for the calf guards,rather than the normal tan color John Brown used.

so how exactly tall are those pads?? I thought someone said they were 36.



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Wow nice shape! I am really glad you found exactly what you wanted. Now I need to find a red or blue BOurdon Lefty blocker... Yeah right..

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The calf pads cost me $20 to have made and the screen printer charged me $10 for the logo patches. The straps got pricey though, they were about $9.00 each. Sarah at PAW gave me a discount because I bought so many of them. When I measured the pads laying as flat as I could get them, they came out to be 34 3/4". I had white side pads made for my BROWN's back in 1982 so I just did these white also. I never liked BROWN's leather side pads because they always got chewed up pretty bad and it was unnecessary weight. I recently sold some JOFA/Vaughn pads for over $600, so I really had no problem paying $350 for these. In fact, for what I received I think it was a fair price. These BROWN's aren't even broken in yet.
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 In fact, for what I received I think it was a fair price. These BROWN's aren't even broken in yet.



wow...you look at the sidewalls and the brown name almost gone and you would figure these were well worn.





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Neums, looking great! I'd like to know a bit about the toe-tie mods you've done on these..

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 In fact, for what I received I think it was a fair price. These BROWN's aren't even broken in yet.



wow...you look at the sidewalls and the brown name almost gone and you would figure these were well worn.






The big white BROWN logos were heat pressed on those early 80's pads. It didn't really wear off so much as flake off. They started screen printing them later and that worked a lot better. When Rick Heinz was in Peoria with me in 1984, his BROWN's had screen printed patches sewn over the flaked off heat pressed logos. Rick decided he didn't want to advertise for BROWN, so he cut the patches off and colored over the white labels on his pads and gloves with black marker pen. My pads were older and didn't even have the white BROWN logo down the sides, so I ended up sewing Rick's patches onto my pads.
 The toe ties were made from a leather strap with two holes punched in the center. You run a skate lace in and out of the holes and then wrap the leather strap with stick tape to make in ridged. Darren Pang showed me how to make these a long time ago, but we were both just copying Murray Bannerman.
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I wore my new BROWN's in an Alumni game last Wednesday. They seemed a bit awkward to play in because they were so stiff, especially at the ankle break. The thigh rise is about an inch and a half more than I am used to and seemed kind of strange. Wore them again this morning and they felt a lot better. Just took a bit of getting used to. I kind of like the taller thighs now, instead of shots hitting me in the pants, they hit the pads now.
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I like the taller thighrise also.I didnt always,but now I cant imagine playing in shorter pads.

its always better to have the added rise to protect the knee area when dropping down to make saves...and like you said it helps protect the thigh when standing up also.

im 6'2 and used to wear 34 and 35inch Brian's traditional style pads,it was very akward switching over to the new butterfly style pads which were listed as 36+2 and 37+1,both had massive thighrises.I like to skate and handle the puck alot.I felt like I was being restricted.After the pads broke in and I got used to them they were fine,but for a few weeks it was very uncomfortable to say the least.

I have to wear a 34 or larger in the vintage pads.These come up to around mid thigh when I have skates on.4 or 5 inches above my knee.I never bought the "your knee should sit directly in the center of the knee rolls theory" for the pads to fit perfectly because if you look at goalies like Parent,Lindbergh,Hrudey,Stephenson,Millen their pads were very short.I dont think the pad needs to flex at the knee rolls for them to function properly.The vintage pads are built more like pillows.I think its all personal preference.I can get away with wearing a 33 inch pad but my knees are exposed when I drop down,I would have to wear some sort of knee protection.

I wear the 35+2,36+1 in the modern style pads.these come up to the very top of my thigh,where the bottom of your pockets would end inside on a pair of pants.

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I just picked up a set of vintage BROWN goal pads the other day for $39.They are being shipped today. They are tan leather and have the white calf guards exactly like the ones Neums added to his set.Besides Neums pads I never saw white guards on BROWN pads before,I always thought they were built stock with tan leather.Was this a special option??

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