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I met him here in Van he is probably the least interesting or likable goalie I have met out of Vachon Parent Esposito and Skoro and Giacomin etc etc.. He was just not a very likable person to me. He may have had an off day but it seemed like he didn't want to be there..
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The ideal way rather than asking questions for info they don't remember & possibly even knew is to find newspaper and magazine articles that are dated and include photos from specific games.

Thing is from what I remember there were never that many photos with goalies in the shot, or of both goalies in a given game. But if photos with reliable dates were available that should help shave down to a very specific point in time.
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If you have specific questions for Cheevers, I know how to get them to him. (when he's not at a signing)

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Does that mean you hang out at the same race track??

I find it hard to trust any of these guys' memories personally. God bless 'em all, they do try to answer as best they can but my feeling is not that they don't remember for the most part, it's just that they weren't paying much attention to the details that we're interested in. Much better to look at archived stuff that is reliably dated.
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No doubt I would trust pictures, game accounts, etc. over memories. In this particular case, there may not be any evidence to indicate which game he actually first wore the mask with the stitches. Memory is a funny thing and something I may have forgotten can be remembered if I recall something else connected to it. My mother completely forgot how a dog we had when I was about 5 was killed. She thought the dog was hit by a car, but could not recall it. After I recalled where it happened and what we were doing, it came back to her and she could remember the event as I did after over 40 years.

My theory is that if you can construct as much of a sequence of events as possible based on what is known, it may be possible to jog the memory of the goalie and get the missing piece of the puzzle. Of course this all depends on the willingness of the goalie to participate.

If Cheevers is willing, it may be possible to figure out at which practice the stitch thing got done. Cheevers hated practicing and the standard story about faking an injury and going to the dressing room for a smoke sounds plausible. If you give the pieces of the puzzle you have, he may be able to come up with the one missing. It might be the only way to narrow it down to a game. 55louch knows that the stitches were on for the road game at MLG on Nov 15th - If the fake injury event happened in Boston, you would know that the stitch was added during a practice before the 11th or the 12th or a possible practice before the team left for Toronto. If it happened in Toronto, clearly the first game with the stitch was on the 15th... I would bet Cheevers can remember whether it happened in Boston or at the practice in MLG the day of the Toronto game. That might narrow things down.

There is a pic of Bernie Parent talking to a teammate with his pretzel mask flipped up circa 1969-70. The teammate wore #8 and was Lew Morrison. When I showed Parent the picture on my iPad, he vividly remembered that moment and the conversation with Morrison - Esposito had just scored with a couple minutes left to go and Bernie said the Bruins won. He remembered the goal and the way he felt after giving it up. Later on I researched and found the game where that happened but the result was a tie, not a Flyer loss. I don't doubt Parent's memories of the goal itself and the way he felt, even though he gets the other details wrong. What he did remember, Espo scoring the goal was the accurate memory and I could get the correct facts from that. My thinking is that it may also work the other way - give the facts and the feeling and other details of an event might get remembered.

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quote:

NJ Hitman wrote:

If you have specific questions for Cheevers, I know how to get them to him. (when he's not at a signing)

Stu



See if he can remember the team he faced the first time he dawned the stitches... If his response is Oakland or Philadelphia or Toronto then we have our date (I am pretty sure he wont remember the date , but a visual like team name may be enough...)

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Thought I narrowed it down by a game with this photo, until I realized that the Nov 12 game vs the flyers was a home game (this game was in Philly)

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Here is the Sports Illustrated cover with Cheevers (no stitches), for those who haven't seen it yet.
(Nov. 8 /67 vs New York)
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Here is the image from a newspaper of Cheevers in action for the November 15 game vs Leafs. (stitch highlighted)

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Very nice detective work B{$

I love this stuff.

When did you figure the game in your new pic was played? It must have been Jan 4/68 because the only other road game for the Bruins against the Flyers that year was on Mar 7/68 at Maple Leaf Gardens because of the Spectrum roof thing. It tells us he wore the 2 slot until at least that January game.

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